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00:02:01 Pauline Wiles: Really looking forward to this; I admit my Patricks have been taking me a looong time to create and send
00:02:11 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Really looking forwa…” with 👍
00:02:14 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Really looking forwa…” with ❤️
00:02:54 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “Really looking forwa…” with ❤️
00:03:57 Lynn Davey: I received a YES from one of the recent Patricks I presented!
00:04:04 Shannon Mattern: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with 🎉
00:04:07 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with 🙌
00:04:08 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with ❤️
00:04:09 Pauline Wiles: Win – I landed another project (at the high end of a customized Patrick) and now only have 2 slots open this year
00:04:11 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with ❤️
00:04:13 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with 🎉
00:04:15 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with ❤️
00:04:16 Janet Hoover: WOOT!!
00:04:22 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 👏
00:04:22 Shannon Mattern: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 🎉
00:04:24 Kim Blake: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 🎉
00:04:26 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with 🎉
00:04:29 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with 🎉
00:04:35 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 👏
00:04:36 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 🎉
00:04:39 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Wins:
-Celebrated my 26 year wedding anniversary!
-Happy client delivery yesterday (post workshop email sequence) 🤩
-I feel calm, peaceful and unworried about hitting my minimum viable income the rest of this year!
00:04:42 JEN: Wins – Had two of my wishy washy maintenance clients re sign up. Lost one more who wanted both a designer and dev in one package and I’m not doing much design these days. So I’ve been reaching out to designers and copywriters to talk about teaming up on projects which is going great.
00:04:42 Shannon Mattern: https://webdesigneracademy.com/next-level-retreat/
00:04:47 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:04:48 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 👏
00:04:49 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Win: Making really good progress on current web design project build (new website). Ahead of schedule and the client loves what I’ve done so far. Just feels good to be doing great work for this new client.

Win: Client/friend who referred that client to me has another one for me. She’ll be sending me their info in a few weeks.

Yay!
00:04:53 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Really looking forwa…” with ❤️
00:04:53 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:04:56 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:04:56 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 🎉
00:04:57 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:04:57 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:05:17 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:05:21 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “Wins – Had two of my…” with ❤️
00:05:29 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:05:39 Julie Albrecht: My win from a few weeks ago: received a yes on a Patrick y'all helped me with on a strategy call! They chose the highest package and were super excited about my proposal/package options 🙌
00:05:42 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “Wins – Had two of my…” with ❤️
00:05:45 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 👏
00:05:46 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 🎉
00:05:47 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with ❤️
00:05:56 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with ❤️
00:05:56 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “My win from a few we…” with ❤️
00:05:59 Janet Hoover: Win: A past main client came back for more stuff, hubs got covid (boo) but I didn’t (yay!)
00:06:01 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “My win from a few we…” with ❤️
00:06:04 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Wins – Had two of my…” with ❤️
00:06:07 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with ❤️
00:06:08 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “Win: A past main cli…” with ❤️
00:06:09 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “My win from a few we…” with ❤️
00:06:25 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “Wins – Had two of my…” with 👍🏻
00:06:27 Janet Hoover: *maintenance
00:06:30 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Wins – Had two of my…” with ❤️
00:06:31 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Wins:
-Celebrated m…” with ❤️
00:06:31 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Wins – Had two of my…” with ❤️
00:06:34 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Really looking forwa…” with ❤️
00:06:40 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with ❤️
00:06:41 Laura Nurse: Hi All!
My win – 2 good sales calls yesterday. Pitched patricks to both. And have been doing 3 outreaches per day for since last week. #doing the work
00:06:44 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with 👍🏻
00:06:48 Michelle Merrill: Replying to “Wins – Had two of my…”

My hubs is a copywriter and looking to fill up his calendar. Let me know if we can help!
00:06:53 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with ❤️
00:06:55 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “My win from a few we…” with ❤️
00:06:56 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Win: A past main cli…” with ❤️
00:07:00 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Win: A past main cli…” with ❤️
00:07:09 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Hi All!
My win – 2 …” with 🙌
00:07:10 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Hi All!
My win – 2 …” with ❤️
00:07:11 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with ❤️
00:07:16 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “Hi All!
My win – 2 …” with ❤️
00:07:18 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Win: A past main cli…” with ❤️
00:07:31 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “My win from a few we…” with ❤️
00:07:32 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “My win from a few we…” with 🦋
00:07:35 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Win: A past main cli…” with ❤️
00:07:38 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “Win: A past main cli…” with ❤️
00:07:39 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “My win from a few we…” with ❤️
00:07:39 Janet Hoover: Replying to “My win from a few we…”

So awesome!!
00:07:40 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “Win: Making really g…” with ❤️
00:07:45 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “Win – I landed anoth…” with 🎉
00:07:46 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “I received a YES fro…” with ❤️
00:07:49 Julie Albrecht: Replying to “My win from a few we…”

Thanks Janet!
00:07:50 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “Really looking forwa…” with ❤️
00:08:03 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Hi All!
My win – 2 …” with ❤️
00:08:06 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Hi All!
My win – 2 …” with 🙌
00:08:10 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “Hi All!
My win – 2 …” with 👍🏻
00:08:16 Ruby Javaid: Nothing new, but just working steadily on things I've booked in the last month or so and maintaining boundaries. The win is not being in a frantic state and having with reasonable deadlines rather than the work on demand I had going on about a year ago
00:08:19 JEN: Reacted to “Hi All!
My win – 2 …” with ❤️
00:08:27 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with 🙌
00:08:29 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with 🙌
00:08:32 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with ❤️
00:08:34 JEN: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with ❤️
00:08:37 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with ❤️
00:08:38 Janet Hoover: Replying to “Nothing new, but jus…”

Super wins!!
00:08:46 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “Nothing new, but jus…”

That’s a big one.
00:08:49 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with ❤️
00:08:49 Pauline Wiles: Replying to “Nothing new, but jus…”

Yes, huge
00:08:56 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Replying to “Wins – Had two of my…”
I do copy! Let me know if you want to chat!
00:09:04 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I do copy! Let me kn…” with 🙌
00:09:15 Michelle Merrill: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with 🙌
00:09:20 Janet Hoover: Replying to “Wins – Had two of my…”

Sarah has the best words!!
00:09:32 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “Sarah has the best w…” with 😍
00:09:34 JEN: Replying to “Wins – Had two of my…”

Yes Sarah I will reach out.
00:09:49 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “Yes Sarah I will rea…” with 👏
00:10:01 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: I heard something yesterday that stuck with me… “You’ve survived your worst days.” Made me really have good perspective on life.
00:10:02 Erica Nash: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pp6qcCqoahJqOUJhSMD-lEKRcKwwU_qxwdWz4jkKoaY/copy?usp=sharing
00:10:13 Shannon Mattern: Reacted to “I heard something ye…” with ❤️
00:10:17 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “Nothing new, but jus…”

Thank you all! 💛
00:10:20 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “I heard something ye…” with ❤️
00:10:23 Laura Nurse: Reacted to “Nothing new, but jus…” with ❤️
00:10:28 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I heard something ye…” with ❤️
00:10:30 Laura Nurse: Reacted to “I heard something ye…” with ❤️
00:10:35 Erica Nash: 3 options
Anchored high
Perfect for you if statement
Categories of deliverables with so that you can statements
Solutions for every deliverable in each package at a different level of service/customization/effort
Timeline
Investment total
Payment schedule
Side-by-side comparison
00:13:54 Laura Nurse: Replying to “I heard something ye…”

This came up in my pinterest feed this morning. “Imagine she starts a business and it’s going kinda slow then BOOM it turns into a multi-million dollar company. She is you. Claim it.”
00:14:03 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “I heard something ye…” with ❤️
00:16:09 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): This is already helping! And I thought I totally understood Patrick lol
00:16:10 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Wins – Had two of my…” with ❤️
00:16:14 Shannon Mattern: Reacted to “This is already help…” with 🙌
00:16:24 Julie Albrecht: Same!
00:16:24 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “This came up in my p…” with ❤️
00:16:38 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “This is already help…” with 💯
00:17:39 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “This is already help…” with 💯
00:17:42 JEN: This is great as I was really getting hung up on creating a zillion “so you can” statements which is why I haven’t submitted mine.
00:17:44 Janet Hoover: Replying to “This is already help…”

Right?!
00:18:42 Shannon Mattern: Replying to “This is great as I w…”

YES!!! Adding the column on the left that has a category and adding the SO THAT statement there INSTEAD of listing it per deliverable will save you SO much time!!! Erica’s a genius.
00:19:19 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): What about an expiring deadline on the offer? Is that included in the Patrick?
00:19:42 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “YES!!! Adding the co…” with 🙌
00:19:48 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “YES!!! Adding the co…” with 👍🏻
00:20:36 JEN: Reacted to “YES!!! Adding the co…” with 👍🏻
00:20:45 Shannon Mattern: Replying to “What about an expiri…”

Great question! Adding it to my list!
00:20:46 Janet Hoover: I LOVE this category column
00:20:50 Pauline Wiles: Replying to “This is great as I w…”

Agreed, one “so that you” per row feels much lighter.
00:21:02 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “I LOVE this category…”

same!
00:21:06 Lynn Davey: Replying to “I LOVE this category…”

Me too!!
00:21:13 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “YES!!! Adding the co…” with 👍🏻
00:21:43 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): I had a category column but didn’t put the so that statement in there it was all stuffed in the other boxes and got SO long
00:22:00 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I had a category col…” with 👍
00:22:29 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “I had a category col…” with 👍
00:22:41 Kim Blake: Replying to “I LOVE this category…”

If you are using proposal software, like Honey Book, Moxie, etc., I don't think you can have a category column.
00:24:30 Janet Hoover: Question about the wording “outlined in your strategy…” is this assuming we’re doing a paid discovery/strategy?
00:24:46 Shannon Mattern: Replying to “I LOVE this category…”

Added that to the list of questions Kim, we can talk about that and how to visually display that information
00:25:15 Shannon Mattern: Replying to “Question about the w…”

Great question! Added to the list – I’ll talk about this shortly!
00:25:25 Kim Blake: Reacted to “Added that to the li…” with 👍
00:25:39 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Great question! Adde…” with 👍
00:31:34 Janet Hoover: 1
00:31:36 Pauline Wiles: 1
00:31:37 JEN: 1
00:31:37 Ruby Javaid: 1
00:31:42 JEN: custom
00:31:45 Pauline Wiles: custom, high touch
00:32:00 JEN: 3
00:32:00 Janet Hoover: 3
00:32:00 Ruby Javaid: 2
00:32:15 Laura Nurse: 3 if its just the guide
00:32:17 Janet Hoover: Because it says “guide”
00:32:19 JEN: because it’s just a guide and they have to figure it out
00:32:28 Ruby Javaid: it's a guide they fill out and then I usually edit it
00:32:30 Laura Nurse: 2 if its guide with a call or customization after they submit
00:33:32 JEN: 1
00:33:43 Janet Hoover: 3
00:33:46 JEN: because it sounds like they don’t have to do anything
00:33:47 Ruby Javaid: 1 or 2 depending on who's writing the email sequence
00:33:50 Pauline Wiles: 2
00:34:29 JEN: add strategy and writing
00:34:32 Janet Hoover: Includes schedule a call
00:34:35 Pauline Wiles: “done for you”
00:34:35 Laura Nurse: 2 would be just setup of their info. 3 would be we create the works of it
00:34:41 Laura Nurse: sorry, 1.
00:34:42 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Connect it to their email
00:34:46 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Also call it custom – something about “for their clients”
00:35:05 JEN: 3
00:35:06 Ruby Javaid: 3
00:35:09 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: 3
00:35:22 JEN: guide and it’s such a small thing that for 1 and 2 I would do for them
00:35:42 Ruby Javaid: 2
00:35:43 Laura Nurse: 2 or 3.
00:35:43 JEN: 2/3
00:35:53 Shannon Mattern: An analytics Option 1 – do it for them and set up GA goals based on their customer journey.
00:36:02 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “An analytics Option …” with ❤️
00:37:48 Laura Nurse: Deliverable = Brand Board. Option 1 – custom created for you. Option 2 – customize one of my templates for you. Option 3 – I give you blank template.
00:38:32 Janet Hoover: Copy guidance:
1 With a copywriter
2 With guide + I edit and/or 1 page copywriter
3 Copy guide
00:38:36 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Email copywriting audit with a call (1), with video delivery and no call (2), email audit guide (3)
00:39:07 Kim Blake: Replying to “Deliverable = Brand …”

Does the client pick the template, and then you customize it?
00:39:25 Ruby Javaid: Copywriting:
1: brand interview, I write full copy and find images
2: they get copy guide to fill out, we talk about it and flesh it out together, they find images
3: they fill out copy worksheets and I add it to the site as is, they provide all images
00:39:26 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): The idea of “throw it in a guide” for column 3 is so freeing! 😂
00:39:38 Shannon Mattern: E-commerce – Option 1 – I connect all the tech and payment, emails, etc and configure all products | Option 2 – I set up all tech and configure 1 product per category | Option 3 – I set up all tech and show you how to add your products.
00:39:43 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “The idea of “throw i…” with 💛
00:39:45 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “The idea of “throw i…” with 💛
00:39:51 Janet Hoover: Guides and columns ❤️🙌
00:39:59 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “Guides and columns …” with 👏
00:40:00 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “The idea of “throw i…” with 💯
00:42:16 Laura Nurse: Reacted to “The idea of “throw i…” with 😆
00:43:05 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: I don’t put the expirations on my website Patricks but I do put them in my proposal / contract Patricks.
00:43:25 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): I often forget the limited time offer until after I’ve sent it and then am kicking myself lol
00:43:37 Laura Nurse: What I like about this streamlined layout is that it doesn’t have an overwhelming amount of detail and I can use it on sales calls to walk a prospect through my offers so they can pick one.
00:43:58 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “What I like about th…”

YES! I was thinking this when Erica was going through it!
00:44:05 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “What I like about th…” with ❤️
00:44:06 Kim Blake: If you know a client doesn't want a DIY in any way, what would the low-end option look like or a third option?
00:44:06 Erica Nash: Reacted to “What I like about th…” with ❤️
00:44:14 Pauline Wiles: Yes please, more info on number of pages …
00:44:28 Erica Nash: Reacted to “YES! I was thinking …” with 🖤
00:45:38 Laura Nurse: Can’t you just link out to these and have them pick one before you send the proposal?
00:46:02 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “If you know a client…” with 👍🏻
00:46:54 JEN: Yeah but what if one of those pages is a 26 section sales page?
00:46:58 Janet Hoover: Ah….Ok gotcha…I was wondering if the client was going to ask…but what is that? Makes sense now…thank you! I can explain that out in the vid
00:48:00 Laura Nurse: hold up – is that strategy row, basically paid discovery? I thought paid discovery was about creating a brief for the project not the flushed out plan for what the client needs and how they’re going to use it.
00:48:45 Pauline Wiles: Replying to “Yeah but what if one…”

Yes, a friend of mine (not in WDA) landed an author client who figured out she is pricing per page; the client then said she wanted all 14 books on one page and my friend was too embarrassed to hold the boundary. Ouch.
00:49:44 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): It’s kind of impossible to put a price on this unless you know the number of pages in advance so I’ve found the paid discovery to be critical for that kind of project
00:50:39 JEN: Replying to “Yeah but what if one…”

Yup. Been there 😉
00:50:49 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “Yup. Been there ;-)” with 🦋
00:50:59 Laura Nurse: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

I solved that problem by having a preset patricks for each of 13, 9, and 4 page sites. they don’t vary a lot, but for the timeline and pricing.
00:50:59 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

Yes this! And then I put the same number of pages or sections or whatever they need across the board. How we get there is dependent on the package of course
00:51:27 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”
Good stuff!
00:51:32 JEN: Reacted to “It’s kind of impossi…” with 👍
00:53:40 Kim Blake: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

I put a page range: 6-8, 10-14, 20-25, etc., whatever was discussed in the discovery call.
00:53:52 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

I always mention that every website gets the “Core 4” pages (the pages that are on every website), standard policy page(s), plus up to X number of additional pages on the site (more pages allowed if it’s high-end, middle amount if it’s magic middle, and low number for the low-end).
00:54:22 Kim Blake: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

@Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC yes!
00:54:27 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

I like that wording – the “core 4”!
00:54:31 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

🙂
00:54:38 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “I like that wording …” with ❤️
00:54:38 Pauline Wiles: Replying to “If you know a client…”

And I'm not thrilled about selling DIY; I've seen people make such a mess of doing it themselves…
00:54:48 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “If you know a client…” with 👍🏻
00:55:13 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “I like that wording …” with ❤️
00:55:20 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I always mention tha…” with 🙌
00:55:34 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I always mention tha…” with 🙌
00:55:38 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I like that wording …” with 👍
00:56:15 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”
@Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC but then isn’t it no longer apples to apples, if each level has different number of pages?
00:56:21 Kim Blake: Replying to “If you know a client…”

Most of my leads don't want DIY, so I don't offer it.
00:56:41 Laura Nurse: Replying to “If you know a client…”

@Pauline Wiles I resist offering this too.
00:56:44 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “@Tracy Trathen • e d…” with 👍
00:57:45 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

It is – because they’re getting additional pages, just a different number of additional depending on which tier they choose just not the same number… but they get the core 4, and the policy pages.

And I do tell them that their site page number isn’t locked down, but if they want to do them, it will cost more.
00:59:09 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

It’s like:

*High, Middle, Low
Pages:
*Core 4, Core 4, Core 4
*Policy, Policy, Policy
* 12 additional, 6 additional, 3 additional
01:00:01 Janet Hoover: Thoughts on putting (for small projects/new businesses) putting a 1 page site as the low end
01:02:30 Ruby Javaid: I try to avoid using DIY in the language. It's always “starter” or “essentials” instead which helps because then they know it's the minimum they need to get going
01:02:38 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “I try to avoid using…” with ❤️
01:02:44 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “I try to avoid using…” with 💛
01:03:05 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I try to avoid using…” with ❤️
01:03:14 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “I try to avoid using…” with ❤️
01:03:15 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “I try to avoid using…” with ❤️
01:03:22 Erica Nash: Replying to “Thoughts on putting …”

Love talking about this lol
01:03:43 Janet Hoover: Replying to “I try to avoid using…”

My lower level is called the “Essentials Level”
01:03:49 Michelle Merrill: I love that idea!!
01:03:51 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I try to avoid using…” with 👍
01:04:06 Michelle Merrill: I had a starter/you-do-the-work option in a Patrick I presented last week. The lead said early in the call they weren't interested in that, so I let them know it was there but then didn't spend any time on it.
01:04:20 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “I had a starter/you-…” with ❤️
01:04:33 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “I try to avoid using…”

@Janet Hoover mine too actually! I just call it the Essentials Package
01:05:15 Janet Hoover: I go back and forth on it lol
01:06:23 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “@Janet Hoover mine t…” with ❤️
01:06:41 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: I do just as much work on a 1 page site as I do a 5 page site – the backend setup is the same for me (WordPress)
01:06:47 Ruby Javaid: In my mind a one page still requires all the same setup on the backend
01:06:58 Pauline Wiles: Reacted to “I do just as much wo…” with 👍🏻
01:07:07 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “In my mind a one pag…” with 👆
01:07:11 JEN: Reacted to “I do just as much wo…” with 👍🏻
01:07:15 Janet Hoover: Replying to “In my mind a one pag…”

Oh for sure
01:07:26 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I do just as much wo…” with 👍
01:07:45 Ruby Javaid: I do like offering a half day or full day sometimes as a downsell. Keeps them in their container for the day and I'm pricing it fairly, but it is still usually a lot less expensive for the client than one of the packages
01:08:00 Pauline Wiles: Replying to “In my mind a one pag…”

And at the moment for me, it's the same level of project management / questions / overhead, too. #must-streamline-my-process
01:08:08 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “And at the moment fo…” with 💯
01:08:12 JEN: Replying to “I do like offering a…”

I like this as the day rate has natural boundaries.
01:08:34 JEN: Reacted to “I do like offering a…” with 👏🏻
01:08:35 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “I do like offering a…”

yes, exactly!
01:08:36 Janet Hoover: Replying to “I do like offering a…”

Same
01:09:21 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “And at the moment fo…” with 👍
01:09:26 Kim Blake: Replying to “In my mind a one pag…”

I only offer a one-pager if asked, and it's a prebuilt template.
01:09:28 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “It’s kind of impossi…”

Although I don’t focus on this except in the contract or if the client asks specifically.
01:09:39 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “I only offer a one-p…” with ❤️
01:09:50 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “It’s kind of impossi…” with 👍
01:10:17 Janet Hoover: Yes, thank you, Erica!!
01:10:25 Pauline Wiles: Replying to “I do like offering a…”

I don't yet trust myself to hold the day rate boundary; I'd probably work 14 hours and build a full site. 🙁
01:10:30 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Yes, thank you, Eric…” with 🖤
01:10:31 Kim Blake: Reacted to “Yes, thank you, Eric…” with 👏
01:10:35 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “Yes, thank you, Eric…” with 👏
01:10:36 Ruby Javaid: Yes, this was super good, and it'll save me a lot of time in the future. Thank you Erica!
01:10:44 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Yes, this was super …” with 🖤
01:10:58 Julie Albrecht: Yes, I'm in the middle of module 4, so this is coming at the perfect time!
01:11:06 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Yes, I'm in the midd…” with ❤️
01:11:13 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Yes, I'm in the midd…” with ❤️
01:12:39 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: That’s very similar to when you write a letter for a job – you tailor it to the company and the position you’re applying for……..
01:12:48 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “That’s very similar …” with 👆🏻
01:12:49 Erica Nash: Reacted to “That’s very similar …” with 🙌
01:14:42 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): VIP day examples please!
01:15:01 Laura Nurse: GPT Prompts for patricks please!
01:15:02 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “VIP day examples ple…” with 👍
01:15:09 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “GPT Prompts for patr…” with 👆
01:15:12 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “VIP day examples ple…”

I second this!
01:15:20 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “GPT Prompts for patr…” with 🙌
01:15:22 Sarah Guilliot (SarahDesign.com): Reacted to “GPT Prompts for patr…” with 👆
01:15:23 Julie Albrecht: Reacted to “VIP day examples ple…” with 👍
01:15:23 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “GPT Prompts for patr…” with 👆
01:15:24 Lynn Davey: Reacted to “GPT Prompts for patr…” with 🙌
01:15:31 JEN: membership sites
01:15:35 Sharece O'Neal: Reacted to “VIP day examples ple…” with 👍
01:15:44 Ruby Javaid: social media set ups
01:15:46 Michelle Merrill: Yes on the eCommerce! I liked your quick ideas today but I'd love to hear more details.
01:16:41 Laura Nurse: Services I Offer: branding, websites; brochure, blog, & ecomm, website management, digital marketing assistance (includes SEO).
01:16:45 Ruby Javaid: oh and email marketing please