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Managing Your Web Design Business Finances with Rocky Lalvani EP 88
byShannon Mattern
WDA Live Strategy Call 11-28-2023


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Chat

00:01:19 Glennette Goodbread: Ate too much as usual.
00:01:36 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Hi! I’m here, but will be coming and going w/kids getting home, etc. Just listened to last week’s call and had FOMO, so I didn’t want to skip the call 🙂
00:01:42 Glennette Goodbread: I signed my first 15K project!!!
00:01:45 Chantel Rudden: Finalized my Patrick and feel amazing
00:01:49 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 😍
00:01:51 Chantel Rudden: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 😍
00:01:52 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 🙌🏻
00:01:54 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 🙌🏻
00:01:56 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 🙌🏻
00:01:57 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 🥳
00:01:57 Chantel Rudden: Replying to “I signed my first 15…”

Amazing!!!
00:01:59 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 😍
00:02:02 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:02:03 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:02:04 Sheila McRae: Hopeful client just booked my biggest package for 2 sites they own.
00:02:05 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Replying to “I signed my first 15…”

AWESOME!! Congratulations.
00:02:06 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “I signed my first 15…”

congrats!!
00:02:07 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 😃
00:02:08 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 👏
00:02:13 Michelle Self: Did it scared and posted on my FB that I designed websites and had 3 people reach out!
00:02:14 Caitlin Harrison: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 🥳
00:02:15 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:02:16 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with ❤️
00:02:20 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with 🥳
00:02:23 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with ❤️
00:02:25 Michelle Self: Replying to “I signed my first 15…”

Congrats!
00:02:29 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with 🥳
00:02:41 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with ❤️
00:02:47 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with ❤️
00:03:10 Sheila McRae: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with ❤️
00:03:13 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: U can do any niche @Glennette Goodbread!!
00:03:15 Sheila McRae: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:03:18 Caitlin Harrison: got the 2nd of 3 websites live TODAY!!! the two biggest sites are live and now the smaller one is getting close but also way less stressful
00:03:21 Chantel Rudden: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with ❤️
00:03:24 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “U can do any niche @…” with 🙌
00:03:32 Diana Richards she/her: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with 🎉
00:03:40 Erica Nash: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with 🥳
00:03:40 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with 👍
00:03:47 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “U can do any niche @…” with ❤️
00:03:48 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with 🙌🏻
00:03:50 Chantel Rudden: Reacted to “U can do any niche @…” with ❤️
00:04:01 Chantel Rudden: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with ❤️
00:04:17 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with ❤️
00:04:28 Michelle Self: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:04:36 Michelle Self: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with ❤️
00:04:45 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: I’m part way through Dara Sklar’s Get Productive with Google course and cleaning out my inbox! 🥳
00:04:47 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Closed up another zombie project that started in Feb of 2022! I gave clear options/timeline for how to finalize things. She has decided to call it quits with her biz but she congratulated me on setting my time boundaries and was very positive about it.
00:04:51 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with 💪
00:04:55 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “I signed my first 15…” with 🥳
00:04:59 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with 🙌
00:05:01 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I’m part way through…” with 🙌🏻
00:05:04 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with 🥳
00:05:10 Michelle Self: Reacted to “I’m part way through…” with 🙌🏻
00:05:12 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I’m part way through…” with 🙌🏻
00:05:13 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:05:13 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I’m part way through…” with 🙌🏻
00:05:14 Michelle Self: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with ❤️
00:05:16 Michelle Self: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:05:17 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:05:20 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:05:27 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with 👏
00:05:29 Amy K Ogden: Earlier today nailed a Discovery Call and had a chance to show how much value I can offer. It was at the end of a difficult week where I was battling some imposter syndrome. Speaking with this potential client today I got to see how much I DO actually know and I AM supposed to be doing this! Lol! Always a good reminder.
00:05:34 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with ❤️
00:05:34 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Win = figured out why I keep procrastinating and what I need to do about it.
00:05:34 Janet Hoover: Replying to “I’m part way through…”

That sounds awesome lol!
00:05:43 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:05:47 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with 👏
00:05:58 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with 👏
00:05:59 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with 👏🏻
00:06:01 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with ❤️
00:06:02 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with 👏🏻
00:06:06 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with 🙌
00:06:08 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with 🙌🏻
00:06:10 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with ❤️
00:06:10 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with ❤️
00:06:10 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with 🙌
00:06:12 Amy K Ogden: Replying to “Win = figured out wh…”

Intriguing! My interest is piqued!
00:06:14 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with ❤️
00:06:24 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “I’m part way through…”
It’s so good!!
00:06:28 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “Intriguing! My inter…” with ❗
00:06:31 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “I’m part way through…” with 👍
00:06:35 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:06:37 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with ❤️
00:06:38 Diana Richards she/her: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:06:38 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with ❤️
00:06:45 Janet Hoover: Had a super small project that I alllllmost undercharged for then thought better lol
00:06:57 Diana Richards she/her: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with 👏🏻
00:07:04 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Had a super small pr…” with ❤️
00:07:06 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “Had a super small pr…” with 👏🏻
00:07:11 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: I held my boundaries with a client thanks to all of your smart advice! 🙂
00:07:11 Amy K Ogden: Replying to “I’m part way through…”

Dara is fabulous! Love her.
00:07:20 Michelle Self: Reacted to “I held my boundaries…” with ❤️
00:07:21 Michelle Self: Reacted to “Had a super small pr…” with ❤️
00:07:21 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I held my boundaries…” with ❤️
00:07:41 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Hats for cats!! Bahahaha
00:07:45 Ruby Javaid: I got through another module and workbook plus a client said no to a retainer Patrick, so I reworked it and gave her three more options without actually sacrificing time or money on the retainers. let's see what she says!
00:07:45 Lisa Doiron: Created a boundary with a client when I saw things starting to go sideways on a project where in the past I would have just put up with it.
00:07:54 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with ❤️
00:07:57 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:08:07 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Amazing!!!” with ❤️
00:08:09 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with ❤️
00:08:12 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “AWESOME!! Congratula…” with ❤️
00:08:13 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “Finalized my Patrick…” with ❤️
00:08:14 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “Hopeful client just …” with 👏
00:08:15 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “congrats!!” with ❤️
00:08:18 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Congrats!” with ❤️
00:08:18 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with 🥳
00:08:22 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Had a super small pr…” with ❤️
00:08:24 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: Reacted to “U can do any niche @…” with 🙌
00:08:25 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with ❤️
00:08:29 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “U can do any niche @…” with ❤️
00:08:31 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “I got through anothe…” with 👏🏻
00:08:36 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “got the 2nd of 3 web…” with ❤️
00:08:46 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Hats for cats!! Baha…” with 🤣
00:08:53 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “Did it scared and po…” with 👏
00:09:07 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Created a boundary w…” with 🙌🏻
00:09:08 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:09:18 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Meee neither!
00:09:18 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Hahah
00:09:25 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Earlier today nailed…” with ❤️
00:09:28 Lisa Doiron: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with ❤️
00:09:31 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with ❤️
00:09:37 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I held my boundaries…” with ❤️
00:09:38 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:09:43 Glennette Goodbread: Replying to “Win = figured out wh…”

Tell us more!
00:09:48 Amy K Ogden: Replying to “Closed up another zo…”

Well handled!
00:09:50 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “I’m part way through…” with ❤️
00:09:56 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “I got through anothe…” with 💪
00:10:03 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Had a super small pr…” with ❤️
00:10:08 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “I held my boundaries…” with ❤️
00:10:14 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Hats for cats!! Baha…” with 😂
00:10:17 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Created a boundary w…” with ❤️
00:10:22 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Created a boundary w…” with 🙌🏻
00:10:37 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “I got through anothe…” with 👏
00:10:44 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I held my boundaries…” with ❤️
00:10:50 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I got through anothe…” with 👏🏻
00:10:50 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Had a super small pr…” with ❤️
00:10:52 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with 🙌
00:10:54 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Created a boundary w…” with 👏
00:10:55 Lisa Doiron: Reacted to “I held my boundaries…” with ❤️
00:10:59 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Created a boundary w…” with 🙌🏻
00:11:17 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: laurakamark.com/dara
00:11:25 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “laurakamark.com/dara” with 👍
00:11:25 Caitlin Harrison: its soooo good
00:11:33 Glennette Goodbread: Lots of good stuff in there!
00:11:55 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Replying to “laurakamark.com/dara”

00:13:03 Glennette Goodbread: One great tip was if you use multiple gmail accounts, you can change the # to go from one account to another i.e. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox Doesn't just work with gmail either!
00:13:06 Caitlin Harrison: Stay foreverrrrrr
00:13:17 Diana Richards she/her: Reacted to “Stay foreverrrrrr” with 😃
00:13:21 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Stay foreverrrrrr” with 😂
00:13:23 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “Stay foreverrrrrr” with 😂
00:13:34 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Stay foreverrrrrr” with ❤️
00:14:03 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “Stay foreverrrrrr” with ❤️
00:14:22 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Stay foreverrrrrr” with 😂
00:15:17 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “Win = figured out wh…”

So… I kept thinking that the reason I wasn’t getting things done was being unorganized, but… it was more about some emotional things going on underneath it all. Fear of disappointing people (family, friends, clients) along with worry immobilized me. And honestly it was about actually SEEING what was going on – instead of burying my head in the sand and trying to ignore it. Once I see what’s going on, I can address it. “Is this a real thing?” “What’s the worst that can happen here?” etc.
00:15:32 Michelle Self: Reacted to “Win = figured out wh…” with ❤️
00:15:34 Michelle Self: Reacted to “Stay foreverrrrrr” with ❤️
00:15:44 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “So… I kept thinking …” with 💕
00:15:50 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “So… I kept thinking …” with ❤️
00:15:51 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Well handled!” with ❤️
00:15:56 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Closed up another zo…” with ❤️
00:16:39 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “So… I kept thinking …” with ❤️
00:16:43 Erica Nash: Reacted to “So… I kept thinking …” with ❤️
00:19:07 Lisa Doiron: Reacted to “So… I kept thinking …” with ❤️
00:19:56 Glennette Goodbread: Brain vs hands
00:20:03 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Brain vs hands” with 🙌
00:20:03 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Brain vs hands” with 💯
00:20:46 Glennette Goodbread: Reacted to “So… I kept thinking …” with 👏
00:25:07 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “Brain vs hands” with 💯
00:26:36 Amy K Ogden: That’s the hard part. It’s easier to have that conversation when you feel rooted in that truth.
00:26:56 Erica Nash: Reacted to “That’s the hard part…” with ✅
00:27:26 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “That’s the hard part…”

Absolutely true. Even if you say it, people just know – they can tell – whether you are rooted in it or not. Once you’re there… it makes such a difference.
00:27:37 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “That’s the hard part…” with 👍
00:30:16 Lisa Doiron: Reacted to “That’s the hard part…” with 👍
00:31:56 Glennette Goodbread: Is it my fault if they don't use it?
00:43:19 Glennette Goodbread: YOU are priceless.
00:43:26 Shannon Mattern: Reacted to “YOU are priceless.” with ❤️
00:43:32 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “YOU are priceless.” with ❤️
00:43:38 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “Is it my fault if th…”

lol good point!
00:43:51 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “YOU are priceless.” with ❤️
00:45:56 Glennette Goodbread: One thing that helped me was when I talked to a guy named Nathan and looked at his prices. https://anchor.media/
00:47:45 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “One thing that helpe…” with ❤️
00:47:51 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Yes VERY helpful!
00:48:56 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “One thing that helpe…” with ❤️
00:49:23 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “One thing that helpe…”

thank you Glennette, I'm going to check it out!
00:49:58 Amy K Ogden: That is super tough, so sorry you’re having to deal with that.
00:50:10 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Yes VERY helpful!” with ❤️
00:50:14 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “That is super tough,…” with 💯
00:50:20 Lisa Doiron: Reacted to “That is super tough,…” with ❤️
00:50:26 Glennette Goodbread: I feel you. My income is the lowest it's been in 24 years so the 15k deal couldn't have come at a better time.
00:51:16 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “That’s the hard part…” with 💯
00:51:23 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Absolutely true. Eve…” with ❤️
00:53:05 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: This is a great question Angela!
00:54:40 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “This is a great ques…” with 👆🏻
00:55:00 Amy K Ogden: I gott run, everyone. Good luck, Angela!
00:55:02 Chantel Rudden: As a default parent, what has helped me a lot was to make my timelines longer.. my VIP day is 8 hours between 2 days.
00:55:13 Angela Winter: Reacted to “As a default parent,…” with ❤️
00:55:20 Angela Winter: Reacted to “I gott run, everyone…” with ❤️
00:55:22 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “As a default parent,…” with ❤️
00:55:24 Angela Winter: Reacted to “This is a great ques…” with ❤️
00:55:29 Angela Winter: Reacted to “I feel you. My incom…” with ❤️
00:55:33 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “As a default parent,…” with ❤️
00:55:38 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “As a default parent,…” with ❤️
00:55:45 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “As a default parent,…”

That would work in my situation too (me helping my 84 yr old Mom when need be). Thanks!
00:56:44 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: That happened to me last year and I 100% get how u feel Angela!!!
00:57:10 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: And I learned and doubled down this year and I increased my revenue. And next year I’m confident it’ll be more. Have hope!
00:57:18 Angela Winter: Reacted to “And I learned and do…” with ❤️
00:57:19 Michelle Self: I'm the same way with collaboration fueling creativity!
00:57:22 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “And I learned and do…” with ❤️
00:57:31 Angela Winter: Reacted to “I'm the same way wit…” with ❤️
00:59:04 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “And I learned and do…” with ❤️
00:59:10 Janet Hoover: Reacted to “That happened to me …” with ❤️
00:59:24 Jessica Aiese-Davoli: hang in there Angela!
00:59:36 Angela Winter: Reacted to “hang in there Angela…” with ❤️
00:59:44 Angela Winter: Thank you everyone!