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byShannon Mattern
WDA Live Strategy Call 11-14-2023


Summary + Transcript

Chat

00:00:49 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Welcome Anika!!
00:00:57 Erica Nash: Hi Anika!!
00:01:00 Michelle Self: Welcome!
00:01:22 Anika Loewen: Hi All! Thank you !
00:03:08 Ruby Javaid: Welcome Anika!
00:03:16 Caitlin Harrison: my most complex site design ever went live last week and I am soooo proud of it – www.kaperkits.com
00:03:25 Angela Winter: Welcome Anika!
00:03:25 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🙌🏻
00:03:25 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🎉
00:03:31 Angela Winter: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🎉
00:03:35 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “Welcome Anika!” with 😃
00:03:41 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “Welcome!” with 😃
00:03:42 Michelle Self: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🎉
00:03:46 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “Hi Anika!!” with 😃
00:03:49 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “Welcome Anika!!” with 😃
00:03:53 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “Welcome Anika!” with 😃
00:03:56 Erica Nash: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🙌🏻
00:04:26 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🎉
00:04:35 Stephani – The Simple Growth Co: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🎉
00:04:38 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “my most complex site…”

it looks amazing!!
00:04:38 Erica Nash: Replying to “my most complex site…”

And it’s so beautiful
00:04:41 Ivy Neal: Went to a handful of networking events this past week and have been getting to know people who are good fits to collaborate and refer to each other. ☺️ Having a couple consultations and sending my very first proposals. 😁
00:04:44 Ivy Neal: Reacted to “my most complex site…” with 🎉
00:04:50 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Went to a handful of…” with ❤️
00:04:54 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Went to a handful of…” with ❤️
00:04:54 Angela Winter: Reacted to “Went to a handful of…” with ❤️
00:04:55 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Went to a handful of…” with 🙌
00:05:07 Angela Winter: I'm taking myself on a solo business retreat over thanksgiving at a beautiful cabin in the woods.
00:05:15 Ivy Neal: Reacted to “I'm taking myself on…” with ❤️
00:05:23 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I'm taking myself on…” with ❤️
00:05:26 Michelle Self: I finished my WWM and package pages, started working on marketing and cold outreach for clients in my specific niche.
00:05:26 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I'm taking myself on…” with ❤️
00:05:28 Ivy Neal: Replying to “I'm taking myself on…”
That sounds heavenly
00:05:35 Angela Winter: Reacted to “That sounds heavenly” with ❤️
00:05:35 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I finished my WWM an…” with ❤️
00:05:37 Ivy Neal: Reacted to “I finished my WWM an…” with ❤️
00:05:38 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “I'm taking myself on…” with ❤️
00:05:42 Michelle Self: I like in person networking!
00:05:44 Angela Winter: Reacted to “I finished my WWM an…” with ❤️
00:05:53 Michelle Self: Replying to “I like in person net…”

But I'm pretty extroverted….
00:06:27 Anika Loewen: We do that for wedding peeps in my area. Drinks and good chats = win-win
00:06:45 Michelle Self: Replying to “my most complex site…”

Great job!
00:06:55 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I finished my WWM an…” with ❤️
00:07:00 Michelle Self: Reacted to “I'm taking myself on…” with ❤️
00:07:07 Erica Nash: Reacted to “I like in person net…” with 🤠
00:07:16 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “I'm taking myself on…”

Omg that’s my gift to myself when I reach my goal!! Cabin in the woods!
00:07:23 Erica Nash: Replying to “my most complex site…”

And it looks GREAT!
00:07:26 Angela Winter: Reacted to “Omg that’s my gift t…” with ❤️
00:07:30 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Omg that’s my gift t…” with 🤠
00:07:37 Erica Nash: Reacted to “We do that for weddi…” with ❤️
00:07:40 Ivy Neal: Replying to “my most complex site…”
It’s gorgeous!!!
00:08:12 Amy K Ogden: Replying to “my most complex site…”

Love this, Caitlin! Well done!
00:08:40 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Win: I trusted my design skills this week (it’s something I’ve been working on so I don’t spin my design wheels)
00:08:46 Erica Nash: Reacted to “Win: I trusted my de…” with ❤️
00:08:47 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “Win: I trusted my de…” with ❤️
00:08:59 Ivy Neal: Reacted to “Win: I trusted my de…” with ❤️
00:09:58 Angela Winter: Reacted to “Win: I trusted my de…” with ❤️
00:11:21 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Can you put those in the chat??
00:11:50 Erica Nash: 1. Where are you in the curriculum?
00:11:59 Erica Nash: 2. What are you taking action on right now?
00:12:06 Erica Nash: 3. Where do you need support?
00:12:51 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: We love Patrick!!!
00:13:01 Amy K Ogden: YOu’re gonna love it here!
00:13:11 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “YOu’re gonna love it…” with ❤️
00:13:25 Caitlin Harrison: Replying to “We love Patrick!!!”

and we fight with him from time to time 😂
00:13:29 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “YOu’re gonna love it…” with ❤️
00:13:35 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “and we fight with hi…” with 😂
00:13:39 Angela Winter: Reacted to “and we fight with hi…” with 😂
00:13:40 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “and we fight with hi…” with 🤣
00:13:40 Michelle Self: Ohh! I love the archetype quiz 🙂
00:13:44 Michelle Self: Reacted to “and we fight with hi…” with 😂
00:14:41 Erica Nash: For those of you who are just coming in, we’re going around the room answering these questions (you can pass if you don’t want to play!) 1. Where are you in the curriculum?
2. What are you taking action on right now?
3. Where do you need support?
00:15:40 Shannon Mattern: Here’s a link to leave a review on Apple Podcasts: https://webdesigneracademy.com/review
00:16:07 Anika Loewen: YESSS!
00:18:01 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Go Ivy!!!
00:18:18 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: I love listening to everyone understand why we call him Patrick haha
00:18:28 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “I love listening to …” with ❤️
00:18:47 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “I love listening to …”

I love that people just accept it and start calling him that right away 🤣
00:18:56 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I love that people j…” with 😂
00:18:56 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “I love that people j…” with 🙌🏻
00:19:02 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “I love listening to …” with ❤️
00:19:04 Amy K Ogden: Replying to “I love listening to …”

Right, Kate?! It just kinda comes out.
00:19:07 Caitlin Harrison: @Kaila – HeyKaila Media share your patrick graphic 🙂
00:19:13 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Right, Kate?! It jus…” with 👍🏻
00:19:49 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Replying to “@Kaila – HeyKaila Me…”

https://www.facebook.com/groups/wpdevacademy/posts/2485917284876003/
00:20:07 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “@Kaila – HeyKaila Me…”

It’s Pat!
00:20:10 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “@Kaila – HeyKaila Me…”

aww Patrick is so cute!
00:24:12 Erica Nash: 1. Where are you in the curriculum?
2. What are you taking action on right now?
3. Where do you need support?
00:26:12 Amy K Ogden: Noodling! Good word
00:26:27 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “Noodling! Good word”

I was JUST going to say that. 🤣
00:26:33 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to “I was JUST going to …” with 😂
00:26:34 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “aww Patrick is so cu…” with 💕
00:26:43 Amy K Ogden: Replying to “Noodling! Good word”

Great minds, Kate. Great minds.
00:26:48 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Great minds, Kate. G…” with 👍🏻
00:29:05 Amy K Ogden: First day of a great journey!
00:29:11 Michelle Self: Reacted to “First day of a great…” with ❤️
00:30:04 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Night owl here too if you ever need support at midnight Canada time :p
00:30:26 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “Night owl here too i…” with 🎉
00:30:35 Anika Loewen: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

LOVE it!
00:30:39 Chantel Rudden: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
00:30:44 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦” with 💕
00:30:48 Ruby Javaid: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

me too, total night owl!
00:30:52 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦” with 💕
00:30:58 Maddison Manente: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

Night owl here too
00:31:08 Anika Loewen: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

Glad I am the only one!
00:31:19 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

night owl as well – pacific time zone
00:32:06 Anika Loewen: I feel that so much, too!
00:32:18 Angela Winter: Reacted to “I feel that so much,…” with ❤️
00:32:44 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “First day of a great…” with ❤️
00:32:50 Amy K Ogden: That TOTALLY counts!
00:33:15 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🎉
00:33:26 Amy K Ogden: Been there!
00:34:33 Chantel Rudden: 1. Where are you in the curriculum?
2. What are you taking action on right now?
3. Where do you need support?
00:34:41 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🎉” with ❤️
00:36:32 Chantel Rudden: Replying to “Night owl here too i…”

The Midnight Society
00:36:38 Shannon Mattern: Reacted to “The Midnight Society” with ❤️
00:36:39 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “The Midnight Society” with 🙌🏻
00:36:41 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “The Midnight Society” with ❤️
00:36:43 Anika Loewen: Reacted to “The Midnight Society” with 🙌🏻
00:38:10 Angelica Hidalgo: I have a template I can send you xxx
00:38:51 Maddison Manente: Replying to “I have a template I …”

Oh thank you!!
00:39:17 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: “My brain has a lot of open tabs” 🤣. I relate!!
00:39:27 Amy K Ogden: Reacted to ““My brain has a lot …” with 👍
00:39:53 Anika Loewen: Replying to ““My brain has a lot …”

Ditto!
00:39:59 Michelle Self: Replying to ““My brain has a lot …”

SAME!
00:40:17 Angelica Hidalgo: It’s morning here, good morning!
00:42:42 Amy K Ogden: You can do this!!
00:43:10 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: HA! A few of us are expert procrastinators
00:43:10 Caitlin Harrison: if you find the answer, let me know
00:43:20 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “if you find the answ…” with 👆🏻
00:43:23 Ruby Javaid: i'd like to know too haha
00:43:26 Maddison Manente: I have a technique I learned that I can share that helps if you’re avoiding the task
00:43:31 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “I have a technique I…” with ❤️
00:43:34 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: You’re juggling a lot! Sending hugs!
00:43:49 Chantel Rudden: Want to add a question to see what peoples thoughts are, I’ve been thinking of switching my name. Only because I feel on google its harder to show up “Websites for Creatives” although that is who my target audience, I’ve thought of something that sounds my brandable/more using my last name
00:43:59 Angelica Hidalgo: You’re doing amazing Tracey!!
00:44:04 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “You’re doing amazing…” with ❤️
00:45:05 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Dealing with aging parents can be so hard Tracy! You’re doing great I’m sure!
00:45:12 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Dealing with aging p…” with ❤️
00:45:59 Erica Nash: @Kaila – HeyKaila Media the bean!!
00:46:00 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “I have a technique I…”

Yes please. So far, I have counting down 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and getting up at 1. LOL
00:46:00 Angelica Hidalgo: The sausage dog Kaila 😭
00:46:08 Amy K Ogden: Replying to “@Kaila – HeyKaila Me…”

So cute!!
00:46:16 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Replying to “@Kaila – HeyKaila Me…”

The WET bean. She’s mad I won’t let her on the bed.
00:46:32 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “The sausage dog Kail…” with 💕
00:46:35 Erica Nash: Reacted to “The WET bean. She’s …” with 😂
00:46:39 Erica Nash: Replying to “@Kaila – HeyKaila Me…”

How dare you
00:46:44 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “How dare you” with 🤣
00:46:47 Ruby Javaid: Reacted to “The WET bean. She’s …” with 😂
00:46:48 Michelle Self: Replying to “@Kaila – HeyKaila Me…”

❤️
00:47:02 Kim Stone: I’ll play if there is time.
00:47:05 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “The WET bean. She’s …” with 😂
00:47:09 Shannon Mattern: Reacted to “I’ll play if there i…” with ❤️
00:47:19 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Passion goes a long way!
00:47:24 Caitlin Harrison: I do the same, Angelica
00:48:13 Amy K Ogden: “I haven’t had an opportunity to work with that yet. Tell me more.”
00:48:24 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to ““I haven’t had an op…” with 🙌🏻
00:48:31 Maddison Manente: Replying to “I have a technique I…”

It’s been helpful for me! It’s called RAIN. The thought behind it is that as you avoid a task, a bunch of negative unvoiced thoughts form around the task that make it even harder to do it. So RAIN helps break it down.
00:48:37 Chantel Rudden: Reacted to ““I haven’t had an op…” with 👀
00:48:53 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “I have a technique I…”

That makes perfect sense so far.
00:49:12 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “I have a technique I…” with ❤️
00:49:43 Caitlin Harrison: also think the best of people
00:49:48 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “also think the best …” with 💯
00:49:49 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “also think the best …” with 👆🏻
00:50:09 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: When all else fails, ask questions (people love talking about themselves)
00:50:13 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Everyone starts somewhere… you have to learn about it one time or another.
00:50:27 Amy K Ogden: Also, if someone reponds really poorly in that way, they are likely not your ideal client.
00:50:38 Tracy Trathen • e design studio, LLC: Reacted to “Also, if someone rep…” with 👆🏻
00:50:40 Michelle Self: Reacted to ““I haven’t had an op…” with 🙌🏻
00:50:45 Michelle Self: Reacted to “Also, if someone rep…” with 👆🏻
00:51:27 Michelle Self: Reacted to “It’s been helpful fo…” with ❤️
00:51:30 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Also, if someone rep…” with 👆🏻
00:51:32 Amy K Ogden: That also gives people permission to do the same too
00:53:20 Maddison Manente: Replying to “I have a technique I…”

Basically, first you Recognize what your feeling- bored, worried, ashamed, guilty, etc, then you Acknowledge that you’re feeling those feelings and sit with them for a bit. Then you Investigate why you’re feeling those ways – I’m feeling guilty that I haven’t even started the task and have been saying I’m working on it and ashamed because I should have been able to complete it by now etc. and finally you Nurture yourself- forgive yourself for not completing the task so far, telling yourself that you still have value as a designer even though you haven’t finished or worked on the task yet, etc.
00:53:43 Erica Nash: My favorite line to continue a convo: Oooh tell me more about that.
00:54:06 Maddison Manente: Replying to “I have a technique I…”

It really helps to take the weight off in terms of the task so you can use the SPS (smallest possible step) technique more easily
00:54:36 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “Everyone starts some…” with ❤️
00:54:38 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “When all else fails,…” with ❤️
00:54:39 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: “Introvert by choice” – I love that!
00:54:42 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “Also, if someone rep…” with ❤️
00:54:45 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “That also gives peop…” with ❤️
00:54:48 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to ““I haven’t had an op…” with ❤️
00:54:51 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “also think the best …” with ❤️
01:00:28 Amy K Ogden: I do have to run, bye everyone!
01:00:35 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Reacted to “I do have to run, by…” with 👋🏻
01:00:36 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “I do have to run, by…” with ❤️
01:01:09 Maddison Manente: Replying to “I have a technique I…”

Let me know if you need/want more info on the techniques- I can post something in the Facebook group
01:01:18 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Reacted to “Let me know if you n…” with 👍🏻
01:01:22 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: Replying to “I have a technique I…”

Thank you!
01:05:03 Kate Newnham | UpDesignsLA.com: I got a big client just telling people what I do.
01:06:41 Angela Winter: Gotta run – cheers to you all!
01:07:01 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: ‘Take imperfect action!’ We’re here to support you!
01:08:36 Shannon Mattern: @Maddison Manente yes, please post your strategy in the FB group!
01:08:59 Maddison Manente: Replying to “@Maddison Manente ye…”

Will do!
01:09:05 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Holy smokes Erica
01:09:41 Michelle Self: That's amazing Erica! I
01:09:47 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Big moves.
01:10:06 Angelica Hidalgo: Incredible!!!! Outstanding
01:11:00 Maddison Manente: same
01:11:08 Maddison Manente: I’d love to know what you said
01:12:37 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: So interesting.
01:12:43 Maddison Manente: Cool!
01:12:59 Angelica Hidalgo: I did that and found a copywriter in the uk!
01:14:14 Michelle Self: I am intrigued by this strategy – was kind of trying to see if I could do similar for market research
01:14:18 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: OBMs
01:14:30 Angelica Hidalgo: I just wrote, I’m a web designer and I’m looking for a copywriter to help me out and four people immediately replied!
01:14:50 Angelica Hidalgo: And now we’re posting on Instagram about one another
01:14:56 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: I think I’m in an OBM community I can share with you Kim if that sounds of interest to you
01:15:01 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: I don’t know why I’m in it but I am haha
01:15:04 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “I don’t know why I’m…” with 😂
01:15:35 Angelica Hidalgo: What’s an OBM?
01:15:40 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Online business manager
01:15:44 Chantel Rudden: Do you guys find being part of your chamber of commerce is a good way to network
01:15:45 Angelica Hidalgo: Reacted to “Online business mana…” with 👏🏽
01:16:29 Ivy Neal: Replying to “Do you guys find bei…”
Our metro area chamber is HUGE, so I haven’t done that. But I’m part of one of the suburbs’ chamber, and that’s been great.
01:16:41 Chantel Rudden: Reacted to “Our metro area chamb…” with ❤️
01:17:02 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: A fact finding mission!
01:17:09 Erica Nash: Reacted to “A fact finding missi…” with 🙌
01:17:30 Angelica Hidalgo: Have you done market research Kim?
01:19:09 Erica Nash: Podcasts are literally one big market research platform
01:19:17 Ivy Neal: Reacted to “Podcasts are literal…” with ❤️
01:19:34 Ivy Neal: 100%
01:20:39 Ivy Neal: Thank you!!
01:20:39 Maddison Manente: Thank you!
01:20:42 Chantel Rudden: Thank you !!
01:20:45 Angelica Hidalgo: Thank you!