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February + March 2024 Income Report EP 87
byShannon Mattern
WDA Live Strategy Call 07-19-2022

This Week's Questions

Chat

00:00:52 Deanna: Long time no see!!! ♥️
00:01:05 Caitlin Harrison: Zoom has seemed glitchy for a lot of people today
00:01:52 Mia Rendon: Client responded to my 2nd follow up today! Sending a contract and invoice on Friday🥳
00:02:01 Lauren N.: congrats Mia!!!!
00:02:07 Mia Rendon: Thank you!
00:02:11 Caitlin Harrison: Celebrating this group!!! Amy sharing cool tech with us and having a great conversation with Melissa earlier today 🙂
00:02:21 Erica Nash: YAY Mia!!!!!
00:02:49 Erica Nash: Caitlin, this is THE most helpful group on the web
00:02:52 Karen: Congratulations, Mia!
00:02:55 Leigh Scott: Congrats Mia!
00:02:58 Kate Newnham: I've had 2 consults since last week (none of which have panned out), but I'm doing the work so…
00:03:00 Courtney Wilson: Win: One of our zombie clients sent us all her content this morning. Also, we have this networking/webinar event tomorrow, so that's a kinda cool win!
00:03:01 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: I created a Loom package walkthrough script for my package matrix and used it for a proposal last week. Got it sent out and then took the rest of the week off!
00:03:08 Courtney Wilson: Go Mia!
00:03:15 Kate Newnham: Ooh love that idea Kaila!
00:03:34 Kate Newnham: Yay Courtney and Mia!
00:03:58 Erica Nash: You're doing the work Kate!! 💪 Keep going!!
00:04:00 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: Nice wins!!
00:04:04 Karen: Nice, Kaila!
00:04:16 Mia Rendon: Thank you everyone!!
00:04:27 Erica Nash: Yesss, Courtney!! That has to feel good!
00:04:44 Erica Nash: Love that, Kaila!
00:05:33 Melissa Miller: Hi Caitlin! You're such a Bad Ass 🙂
00:05:34 Leigh Scott: Win: I found they key to finding my dreamium clients – my Frida mug. Lol
00:06:11 Amanda Guerassio (@studioguerassio): Win: I survived Covid
00:06:11 Erica Nash: Love the Frida connection soooooo much 🤩🤩
00:06:29 Erica Nash: Amanda!! Huge win, glad you're back!!
00:06:37 Becky Swan: Had a consult meeting last week, which is pretty much a sure thing since I know them. This could turn into my biggest project yet.
00:06:40 Amanda Guerassio (@studioguerassio): Thank you, Erica! It knocked me down for quite a bit
00:06:58 Erica Nash: Becky!!! Yes!!!
00:07:03 Mia Rendon: Yess, Leigh!!
00:07:06 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: i try!
00:07:07 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: thanks!
00:07:34 Lauren N.: genius chat on kailas work/life balance 😂
00:07:37 Karen: I contributed to a FB question the other day. I still need to do my “ask a stupid question on FB” homework.
00:07:45 Courtney Wilson: Amanda – amazing win!
00:07:46 Caitlin Harrison: yessss @lauren
00:07:52 Caitlin Harrison: genius chats for everything
00:07:58 Erica Nash: Yes, Karen!!!!
00:07:59 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: yassss karen!! nice to see you!!!
00:07:59 Lauren N.: 🙌
00:08:44 Erica Nash: 👍🏼
00:09:11 Courtney Wilson: Karen – loved seeing you post a comment this week! 🙂
00:09:27 Caitlin Harrison: yay Karen!!
00:09:51 Leigh Scott: Yes Karen! Thanks for your great advice in the group
00:10:40 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: this is a good question!
00:11:59 Leigh Scott: Kate – I do the same thing
00:15:17 Amanda Guerassio (@studioguerassio): YES! Would love a package matrix workshop
00:15:55 Caitlin Harrison: Is there a way to search the videos of the calls? I was trying to locate the day Shannon and I talked about how I present the value on calls
00:16:19 Erica Nash: There isn't right now, Caitlin!
00:16:41 Amanda Guerassio (@studioguerassio): Gosh I hear that so often “I really have no idea how much this kind of things costs”
00:17:44 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: ‘just' do it for me though. haha
00:17:47 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: i hate ‘just’
00:17:59 Caitlin Harrison: I hate ‘just’ as well
00:18:05 Caitlin Harrison: then YOU DO IT 😉
00:18:10 Amanda Guerassio (@studioguerassio): ‘just' a logo – I get that one too
00:18:16 Caitlin Harrison: its just a simple website
00:19:00 Deanna: YESSS – JUST do it yourself then 🤣
00:23:25 Caitlin Harrison: I dont think I have a full statement of work at all
00:23:26 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: is the statement of work the contract?
00:26:00 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: ok, so if they aren't the same thing – i don't think i have a statement of work either.
00:28:03 Caitlin Harrison: I usually just sort of say like I cover all the techy things like SSL but its never listed out
00:28:19 Racheal Graham: if this helps, I have a “deliverables” list for each package which gets attached to my contract as the SOW so there is at least a general understanding of what's included and some definition of the timeline – then at kick off we get into the exact details of what the client needs to deliver to me
00:29:36 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: oooh, ok – maybe my version of a SOW is like that. it's the line items of the package matrix auto generated in my contract. but yah, not super detailing the techy stuff like caitlin is saying
00:29:44 Miriam Terrero: Yes please!!!
00:30:31 Caitlin Harrison: maybe I'll add a section towards the top of the contract that lists all the set up I do every time like google analytics etc
00:31:32 Courtney Wilson: @Racheal – that does help. In our timeline we’ll often include what deliverables they need to give us, but we never give them a list of exactly everything we're providing them tech-wise.
00:32:30 Leigh Scott: Kate- Not sure if this helps, but if I have a highly customized proposal then I email over a bulleted list of deliverables, a price and a timeline for the client to approve before I load it all into dubsado. It saves a lot of time if there are any changes.
00:32:34 Kate Newnham: The SOW includes most of the project planner stuff (who delivers what, timeline, payment plan)
00:32:59 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: ok, thanks kate
00:34:09 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: i do have the start date and payment plan in my contract that they get off the bat with the proposal (again, auto-generated by dubsado) but not the other project planner stuff
00:34:48 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: (but also, i love your question because i STILL feel like what i send is a lot haha)
00:35:44 Mia Rendon: I presented the packages and pricing over the call with my consult last week and it was super awkward. Before WDA I never presented prices on a call and I felt like I was talking so fast. Do y’all usually present all 3 packages on the call?
00:36:22 Caitlin Harrison: I am trying to always present them live
00:36:27 Caitlin Harrison: and yes, I talk soooo fast
00:36:30 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: i used to not, then with wda i started to do it, and then there was a strat call (i think another good question from kate) where we discussed that presenting those options on the phone might not be as personal as it could if you presented them after, and then i changed and do it after now
00:36:45 Deanna: Ooh kaila we should brainstorm dubsado – I’ve been working on mine too
00:37:34 Mia Rendon: So I was presenting all 3 of my web packages and then also the VIP day so it felt like a lot
00:37:59 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: anytime deanna! are you in the slack? we also have a channel where we bounce dubsado stuff off of each other every once in a while
00:38:56 Deanna: Yes! Just messaged you 🙂
00:40:34 Erica Nash: That's a very trauma-informed view
00:41:56 Caitlin Harrison: I did it live on a call for the first time without any planning
00:41:57 Kate Newnham: My clients have loved those looms!
00:42:10 Caitlin Harrison: it came naturally in the conversation to just share my screen and talk through the package matrix
00:42:31 Kate Newnham: I can be on the panel now!!
00:42:44 Erica Nash: Yes, Kate!! 🎉🎉
00:42:55 Caitlin Harrison: I wish I could!! we are traveling
00:43:19 Becky Swan: I have a meeting during that time 😕
00:43:21 Kate Newnham: #Erica – Should i register?
00:43:33 Erica Nash: I got you. We’ll send you an email with details!
00:43:39 Kate Newnham: awesome thanks!
00:44:34 Melissa Miller: I listened to your podcast with Josh Hall – so great!!
00:44:49 Kate Newnham: Only if you want me! I won't be offended at all.
00:44:56 Caitlin Harrison: have we gotten the genuis chat registration yet?
00:45:01 Erica Nash: Yes, we want you!
00:45:08 Erica Nash: I'll send it out next week!
00:45:08 Kate Newnham: coolio
00:45:57 Courtney Wilson: Woo new podcast!
00:46:03 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: that IS exciting!
00:46:06 Licia Dantas: That's great news!!!
00:46:08 Kim Brock: Woohoo!
00:46:42 Leigh Scott: Ommmg. You and josh hall are the only 2 web designer podcasts I listed to
00:46:59 Leigh Scott: *listen
00:50:36 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: it's more like the options create the yes versus the actual price
00:50:51 Kate Newnham: totally Kaila
00:51:14 Caitlin Harrison: I would definitely get another quote
00:52:35 Deanna: I tried to package matrix my pool guy – he looked at me like I had 3 heads 😂
00:52:40 Kate Newnham: omg i'm dying
00:52:48 Lauren N.: we got air conditioning put in 4 years ago and the company we went with did a low, medium, and high budget option. i LOVED it…it's the way to do business lol
00:53:42 Erica Nash: Patrickkkk
00:53:59 Kaila – HeyKaila Media: i was going to say! they need to meet patrick! he's the bomb.
00:54:15 Caitlin Harrison: I'm interested to hear your thoughts about the recession and inflation
00:54:20 Kate Newnham: Thanks!!
00:54:24 Becky Swan: bye!
00:54:24 Amanda Guerassio (@studioguerassio): See you! Have a great week!